Coming back to GW - Guild Wars Forums

Walkrr · Nov 20, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Well I quit right before the first expansion came out and I was wondering what the deal is with these expansions, so here are some questions for you guys.

Should I get Factions or Nightfall first?

Just to make sure, when people say Prophecies are they referring to original Guild Wars?

What is the focus of each expansion?

EatMoreCarbs · Nov 20, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Prophecies = Original Guild Wars
Factions = More PvP based
Nightfall = More PvE based

Choose your weapon

dameros · Nov 20, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

A lot of people hate factions and a few love it. There are mixed opinions about the replayability of Nightfall.

It really depends on what you want, pve or pvp. IMO the new professions in Nightfall are much more fun than the ones in Factions.

Russell.Crowe · Nov 20, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatMoreCarbs

Prophecies = Original Guild Wars
Factions = More PvP based
Nightfall = More PvE based

Choose your weapon

UGH, factions was not more pvp based... factions is a short campaign, with a bad and predictable storyline, with 1 mediocre class (rits), and it has many pointless sidedealings to do (elite missions, challenge missions, alliance battles, etc.)

Nightfall is a longer campaign, it has a few of the same sidedealings as factions (an elite mission, challenge missions), but it also has new things added with it (heros, hero battles), and the two added professions are superior to the ones in factions imo (Dervish and Paragon), although I am a fan of the assassin

tbh I enjoy both for different reasons, but as of now I am a bigger fan of nightfall than factions

Kook~NBK~ · Nov 20, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Nightfall is far, far superior to factions, from a PvE point of view.

The story-line is, IMHO, the best of the three. Your character becomes a central figure in the goings on. The voice acting is much, much better than what factions has to offer.

20 missions (but only have to do 17 to get through the game) vs the 13 in factions.

They threw in some things to give the place a "real-world" (in a fantasy game kind of way) feel to Elona, such the place where you come across a funeral being conducted.

Bonuses: In factions, to get the Masters bonus, all but two missions have to be done under a certian amount of time. In Nightfall, there are several different types of things you have to do to get the Masters bonus- keep these people alive in one, go find and kill certian guys in another, don't hurt these people in another, etc. (Yes, there are a couple of timed missions as well.)

Emik · Nov 20, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Tbh i'd recommend Factions before Nightfall should you be buying them both that is.
Ok Factions wasn't the best of the three but it's still playable... and the moaning about 'how Factions sucked' is all bull... you all played it and till Nightfall was released you all loved it.

MaglorD · Nov 20, 2006, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell.Crowe

Nightfall is a longer campaign, it has a few of the same sidedealings as factions (an elite mission, challenge missions), but it also has new things added with it (heros, hero battles), and the two added professions are superior to the ones in factions imo (Dervish and Paragon), although I am a fan of the assassin

Sorry, I disagree. Any profession, including the assassin and ritualist, can hold its own if played well.

Shaden · Nov 20, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

I say go with Nightfall first to get you into the game with a bang. The areas and storyline are nice and it introduces many new things that are great. After a while you can get Factions for the skills, some AB (fun), ang experiment with the new classes and armor. Btw, I think most factions armors are better designed than Nightfall armor in terms of looks. At least, from what Ive seen. Just an opinion.

Perynne · Nov 20, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell.Crowe

UGH, factions was not more pvp based... factions is a short campaign, with a bad and predictable storyline, with 1 mediocre class (rits),

Both assassin and ritualist are very good if played well. A guildmate of mine henched masters from every single Nightfall mission with his assassin without much trouble (read: only tried each mission once or twice before getting masters), and generally laughs at people who say assassin is a worthless class. I play a ritualist as a secondary character, and have done very well with it too. It all depends on how much time you take to get to know your class and it's strengths and weaknesses.

As for which one to get, get Factions first. It might not be as new and shiny as Nightfall, but there's a lot of content in Nightfall that ties in with Factions and Prophecies. If you are planning on getting both anyway at some point, you'll get Factions spoiled for you if you play Nightfall first.
The feel of Factions is asian, and the feel of Nightfall is african. Both might feel a bit odd at first if you're used to european fantasy (like Prophecies), but they quickly start feeling like a second home.

Ozric · Nov 20, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaden

I say go with Nightfall first to get you into the game with a bang. The areas and storyline are nice and it introduces many new things that are great. After a while you can get Factions for the skills, some AB (fun), ang experiment with the new classes and armor. Btw, I think most factions armors are better designed than Nightfall armor in terms of looks. At least, from what Ive seen. Just an opinion.

I'd agree with this poster. I wouldn't suggest going into Factions right now as there are some outposts that are pretty dead, and it may be difficult to get a party up for a mission or quest (unless you don't mind henching everything. You can get back to Factions later. Do Nightfall now.

Sid Soggybottom · Nov 20, 2006, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I'd say if storyline is important to you then I'd play them in the order that they came out. There's a somewhat of a slight continuity between the chapters.

Otherwise, I'd probably play Nightfall first then play Factions with the acquired heroes.

Phaern Majes · Nov 20, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42

The majority of people will tell you NF is the better game. Although it is losing some of its edge considering there is currently no elite mission. So unless you want to replay missions and quests over and over and over and over and over.... well you get the idea. They both offer new content, but NF does have a longer better storyline. Though, I personally like the skills and 2 classes of Factions better.

All in all I'd just say get them all, if not get NF first then decide if you really want factions or not.

Ninna · Nov 20, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

I highly recommend Nightfall
- altho I liked Factions better than Prophecies too

a good thread to read of people talking about all 3 chapters
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10076865

NeHoMaR · Nov 20, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkrr

Should I get Factions or Nightfall first?

If you have the money, get both, plain and simple; If you like PvP you will need all skills; It's also good having all skills for play your favorite PvE missions (or farming)

Lord Sojar · Nov 20, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Dont comeback.... Go move to Korea and play Aion.

UNLESS:

You want to deal with retarded AI.
Love grinding for sunspear pts.
Like never getting a human being in your group to talk with and joke around with.

If those 3 are true, get back into it. Otherwise, I would say run while you still can.

*Darcy* · Nov 20, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Yes, Prophecies is the original GW chapter.

This set of games is intended to be a triolgy that ends with Nightfall. Therefore, if you choose Nightfall for your second chapter, you will finish the main storyline and then when you do Factions, you will backtrack to the middle of it.

Prophecies - beginning of story
Factions - two storylines - main evil taking over world, 2nd conflict between Luxon and Kurzick groups
Nightfall - finale of main storyline

Other than that, there are pros and cons for every chapter - armor, character looks, heroes - the problem is we are spoiled for choice.

Ninna · Nov 20, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

theres not much Factions lore in Nightfall

theres is Prophecies lore with "tying up loose ends" with elonians

Perynne · Nov 20, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

theres not much Factions lore in Nightfall

theres is Prophecies lore with "tying up loose ends" with elonians

Well, not lore as such, but a guildmate of mine spoiled some of Nightfall's ending for me (I haven't passed it yet), and there is a strong connection between all the games. Playing Nightfall first will kind of spoil parts of Factions main storyline close to the end and will be a letdown for any gamer who enjoys their storylines intact. Then again, if you only play for the action then it doesn't matter which one you get first.

DomoniBellumMaximus · Nov 20, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Prophecies is the best. Night fall is my second favorite enviornment, but your really can't play through nightfall with multiple characters in a short period of time, so if you plan on using ur tyrian characters to go through whichever campaign you buy, i would suggest Factions, because its more fun to do multiple times.

Walkrr · Nov 20, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Dont comeback.... Go move to Korea and play Aion.

UNLESS:

You want to deal with retarded AI.
Love grinding for sunspear pts.
Like never getting a human being in your group to talk with and joke around with.

If those 3 are true, get back into it. Otherwise, I would say run while you still can.

Could you explain this to me a little more? What are sunspear points? What has happened to the AI? and is there a lack of players or something?

Nov 20, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17	#1
Walkrr Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006	Coming back to GW Well I quit right before the first expansion came out and I was wondering what the deal is with these expansions, so here are some questions for you guys. Should I get Factions or Nightfall first? Just to make sure, when people say Prophecies are they referring to original Guild Wars? What is the focus of each expansion?

Nov 20, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#17
Ninna Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northeast USA Guild: Guilded Rose Profession: Me/	theres not much Factions lore in Nightfall theres is Prophecies lore with "tying up loose ends" with elonians Last edited by Ninna; Nov 20, 2006 at 01:09 PM // 13:09..

Nov 20, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20	#2
EatMoreCarbs Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ, USA Guild: Dragons Will Eat Your [Face] Profession: R/Mo	Prophecies = Original Guild Wars Factions = More PvP based Nightfall = More PvE based Choose your weapon

Nov 20, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29	#3
dameros Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Guild: Im Targeting The Ghostly (HeRo) Profession: W/Mo	A lot of people hate factions and a few love it. There are mixed opinions about the replayability of Nightfall. It really depends on what you want, pve or pvp. IMO the new professions in Nightfall are much more fun than the ones in Factions.

Nov 20, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59	#5
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Nightfall is far, far superior to factions, from a PvE point of view. The story-line is, IMHO, the best of the three. Your character becomes a central figure in the goings on. The voice acting is much, much better than what factions has to offer. 20 missions (but only have to do 17 to get through the game) vs the 13 in factions. They threw in some things to give the place a "real-world" (in a fantasy game kind of way) feel to Elona, such the place where you come across a funeral being conducted. Bonuses: In factions, to get the Masters bonus, all but two missions have to be done under a certian amount of time. In Nightfall, there are several different types of things you have to do to get the Masters bonus- keep these people alive in one, go find and kill certian guys in another, don't hurt these people in another, etc. (Yes, there are a couple of timed missions as well.)

Nov 20, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#6
Emik Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [FaRM] Farm For The Win Profession: N/	Tbh i'd recommend Factions before Nightfall should you be buying them both that is. Ok Factions wasn't the best of the three but it's still playable... and the moaning about 'how Factions sucked' is all bull... you all played it and till Nightfall was released you all loved it.

Nov 20, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38	#8
Shaden Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Lost Keys to Perception {lost} Profession: R/	I say go with Nightfall first to get you into the game with a bang. The areas and storyline are nice and it introduces many new things that are great. After a while you can get Factions for the skills, some AB (fun), ang experiment with the new classes and armor. Btw, I think most factions armors are better designed than Nightfall armor in terms of looks. At least, from what Ive seen. Just an opinion.

Nov 20, 2006, 09:13 AM // 09:13	#11
Sid Soggybottom Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	I'd say if storyline is important to you then I'd play them in the order that they came out. There's a somewhat of a slight continuity between the chapters. Otherwise, I'd probably play Nightfall first then play Factions with the acquired heroes.

Nov 20, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42	#12
Phaern Majes Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anywhere but up Guild: The Panserbjorne [ROAR] Profession: R/Mo	The majority of people will tell you NF is the better game. Although it is losing some of its edge considering there is currently no elite mission. So unless you want to replay missions and quests over and over and over and over and over.... well you get the idea. They both offer new content, but NF does have a longer better storyline. Though, I personally like the skills and 2 classes of Factions better. All in all I'd just say get them all, if not get NF first then decide if you really want factions or not.

Nov 20, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04	#13
Ninna Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northeast USA Guild: Guilded Rose Profession: Me/	I highly recommend Nightfall - altho I liked Factions better than Prophecies too a good thread to read of people talking about all 3 chapters http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10076865

Nov 20, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#15
Lord Sojar The Fallen One Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oblivion Guild: Irrelevant Profession: Mo/Me	Dont comeback.... Go move to Korea and play Aion. UNLESS: You want to deal with retarded AI. Love grinding for sunspear pts. Like never getting a human being in your group to talk with and joke around with. If those 3 are true, get back into it. Otherwise, I would say run while you still can.

Nov 20, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21	#16
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Yes, Prophecies is the original GW chapter. This set of games is intended to be a triolgy that ends with Nightfall. Therefore, if you choose Nightfall for your second chapter, you will finish the main storyline and then when you do Factions, you will backtrack to the middle of it. Prophecies - beginning of story Factions - two storylines - main evil taking over world, 2nd conflict between Luxon and Kurzick groups Nightfall - finale of main storyline Other than that, there are pros and cons for every chapter - armor, character looks, heroes - the problem is we are spoiled for choice.

Nov 20, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#19
DomoniBellumMaximus Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Domoni Bellum Profession: W/Mo	Prophecies is the best. Night fall is my second favorite enviornment, but your really can't play through nightfall with multiple characters in a short period of time, so if you plan on using ur tyrian characters to go through whichever campaign you buy, i would suggest Factions, because its more fun to do multiple times.